Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 8, 2013 19:44:28 GMT -5
So I posted the nomination ceremony, and then...
Ryan is like comically stupid. Just throwing that out there. If he was smart, he would have tried to just be gracious with me and just held it against me in private. Instead he decides to launch into this tirade against me (because I have a mustache)? I don't even know how he knows I have one? I guess I mentioned it in conversation to him. Anyways here is proof that it is a sexy mustache that looks good on me.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 8, 2013 20:08:15 GMT -5
Suzette just asked Liza if she wanted to be in an alliance with Talla/Suzette/Dixie/Krystal. I need to talk to Krystal about that and make sure that she is really on my side and not theirs if this really is an alliance. Kinda pisses me off that Suzette didn't offer me that spot, but I guess she has been nominated twice in weeks where I won HoH so I can't really blame her.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 8, 2013 20:52:27 GMT -5
UGH AJ wants me to save Ryan/Greg if I get veto. WTF is he really that stupid? -_- Like seriously Ryan just went apeshit on me and you think I am going to save him?
I think him and Liza are closer than I originally accounted for, and I think they are trying to work me to push their alliance forward. Like dude, I WAS THE ONE WHO WON HOH, NOT YOU. You just got lucky because of a twist. So stop trying to steer me in the wrong direction with MY nomination.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 8, 2013 22:05:37 GMT -5
OK so all signs point to Liza being a liar. I think of Suzette and Krystal as honest players, and I don't think they came in as a premade alliance. Krystal said she doesn't even talk to Talla and I buy it.
But Liza told me that they approached her for an alliance. And then AJ was like all gung-ho about Liza being 100% right. Its like, two possible scenarios.
1. He actually fully believes this and was duped by Liza. 2. He and Liza pre-planned this and are trying to manipulate me into making dumb decisions for myslef.
I actually really think that the second one is true because AJ was so vehemently trying to get me to not tell anyone. But dude, I am going to confirm information before I act on it.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 8, 2013 22:15:02 GMT -5
K so I much prefer talking to Suzette over talking to Liza/AJ. Liza was being sooooo shady and AJ was being sooooo pushy. I am ready to jump ship on them because I think they are a pair and I am on the side.
I really want to get Sue/Brigitte off the block without it being known that I was the one to do it.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 9, 2013 23:26:47 GMT -5
OK so people are going to hate me for this but I am totally getting ready to jump ship in this game. I didn't think I was going to but some of these people are just awful sometimes. Suzette/Krystal are where its at.
AJ has been unbearable this round which sucks because I really thought there was a lot of promise between the two of us. Talking to him feels like banging my head against a wall. He has been constantly trying to convince me to make dumb decisions. First he wants to go after people from BBCanada. Then he wants me to save the person who just raged out at me from the block. It's so frustrating that I don't even want to talk to him anymore. Part of me thinks he is being used by Liza and part of me thinks that he is in cahoots. Either way I just need OUT of that alliance because the best case scenario is that he has poor judgment and the worst case scenario is that he is working against me.
Liza is not as smart as she thinks she is. She actually really reminds me of the real Liza. It seems very obvious that she is the type of player that lies in order to plant seeds in people's head that fester over time. The fact that she made up a fake alliance in order to bring me closer to her and AJ just drove a huge wedge between me and them. Sorry that I am the type of player that verifies information. I think that was a miscalculation on her part.
Brigitte I actually still intend to stay quite loyal to, but just not keep her as my number one. I feel really guilty about re-prioritizing my relationship with her, but she just doesn't have good instincts and misreads her relationships with other players. I do admire the fierceness that she brings, and I know she will be a really loyal player. But she runs her mouth A LOT. And she seems really paranoid of me sometimes.
Suzette is someone who I can tell is very straight forward. I don't think I would necessarily tell her things I want kept quiet, but I do think she will be very honest and upfront. Her and I have a good style of communication, we don't beat around the bush. I think she is also gonna be a challenge beast in this game so it will be nice to have her on my side.
Krystal has won my heart this week! She is just so easy to talk to. She is the type of person that offers valuable input but doesn't shove it down your throat. She also is mellow and a lot of fun in general. She is the ONE person in this game that I feel like I could tell anything. I am the type of player that NEEDS a person who they can bounce things off or else I end up making dumb decisions out of paranoia sometimes.
I know that originally my loyalty was to Brigitte, but I think Krystal is a better partner. I still want to be loyal to Brigitte as much as I can but she is such a loose canon. I really don't want to betray her. I don't know if I would have it in me to do that to her . She would hate me. But if it came down to her and Krystal... I dont know what I would do.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 11, 2013 1:31:26 GMT -5
If Liza uses this fucking veto I am gonna call that bitch the FUCK OUT! And its gonna be publicly! I fucking can't STAND her and AJ and I can't wait to unload on them! They are trying to make me think that in fucking me over they are actually helping me and its like, bitch I'm not stupid.
But the thing is, if I call them out before the ceremony (like I want to), I make the chances of her using it even higher than they already are.
I think my best hope is actually Estelle. I am REALLY hoping she refuses to just fall in suit with Liza. She seems to resent Liza's dismissive attitude as well. And she seems to agree that Liza is shady as FUCK.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 11, 2013 2:57:13 GMT -5
insThaBurman3 hey ThaBurman3 so the girls won AndrewIsASexyBeast hey AndrewIsASexyBeast yeah they are rock stars! ThaBurman3 yeah, I know ThaBurman3 only thing is we don't know how voting works until after the final noms AndrewIsASexyBeast well if noms stay the same were good I think ThaBurman3 maybe, but then we might not have the votes for suzette AndrewIsASexyBeast we do AndrewIsASexyBeast you/rory/estelle AndrewIsASexyBeast we tie break AndrewIsASexyBeast done deal ThaBurman3 and if the voting is in pairs? AndrewIsASexyBeast how can the vote be in pairs? ThaBurman3 or rory changes his mind, since he thinks he can get suzette to keep us safe? ThaBurman3 it can be in pairs the same way they were in big brother 9 AndrewIsASexyBeast Greg or Ryan could just as easily change their mind AndrewIsASexyBeast and the difference is they are after me, and Rory isnt AndrewIsASexyBeast Rory is also nice and loyal to you so why do you even want him in jeopardy? ThaBurman3 I don't AndrewIsASexyBeast but you are suggesting he would go on the block over known enemies? ThaBurman3 no, I'm not AndrewIsASexyBeast IDK Im not following sorry ThaBurman3 I'd suggest dixie/krystal ThaBurman3 lowers the girls that would be in that alliance liza talked about pre-game wise by 2, and would serve to get rid of an aussie instead of 2 canadians AndrewIsASexyBeast I dont even believe that alliance is real, I told you that already AndrewIsASexyBeast I let you have your noms, if you want Krystal and Dixie up then by all means change your noms to them ThaBurman3 that'd result in suzette staying though AndrewIsASexyBeast well, dude I understand you have your target. I have mine. We both have very valid reasons here AndrewIsASexyBeast part of being in an alliance is compromise ThaBurman3 I compromised by not suggesting Talla and Ryan for yours though AndrewIsASexyBeast we compromised by picking seperately and acknowledging we are both co-HoHs ThaBurman3 we can always get promised safety from ryan you know AndrewIsASexyBeast you can I cant ThaBurman3 I can for you, I bet AndrewIsASexyBeast no you cant ThaBurman3 ye of no faith AndrewIsASexyBeast if he says that he will be lying to you ThaBurman3 and he'll be a liar with no allies AndrewIsASexyBeast doesnt keep me in the game any longer AndrewIsASexyBeast if he backstabs his promise ThaBurman3 except for when you'd have the votes to stay AndrewIsASexyBeast I don't think I would in a lot of scenarios AndrewIsASexyBeast I have a large target from winning multiple HoHs and people will not want to go far with me AndrewIsASexyBeast in that instance, having people 100% against you is really bad ThaBurman3 but if you were to be one of the ones convincing the girls to save him and offered peace and burying the hatchet, it'd make you come across better AndrewIsASexyBeast dude theres nothing there to salvage AndrewIsASexyBeast I dont and will never connect with him AndrewIsASexyBeast if I had won solely this HoH without the twist of you winning, I would have made sure his ass was evicted <<)(Felt SO good saying that!!!) ThaBurman3 people have connected and worked together after far worse ThaBurman3 but really, how much of this is based off him freaking out at you? AndrewIsASexyBeast I would say 75% freakout, 25%original gut instincts AndrewIsASexyBeast but even with that 25% he was at the top of my list AndrewIsASexyBeast so you can see how much I want him out ThaBurman3 maybe so, but do you think having most of the reason being a freak out is the best thing long term strategically to think on? AndrewIsASexyBeast dude. just stop it. If you don't want to accept my decision and overrule me. Go ahead. i have made myself more than clear and I dont know what you expect from me <<(AND THAT!!!) AndrewIsASexyBeast he is a HUGE threat to me and I dont know why you dont see that but its a fact ThaBurman3 an alliance is no good if one's overruling the other constantly AndrewIsASexyBeast well that's kinda how I feel you are acting right now ThaBurman3 I'm not trying to AndrewIsASexyBeast Here is the thing. You assume an alliance exitst that I think doesn't. I understand we disagree on that, but how are we ignorign the person screaming that they are coming after me? AndrewIsASexyBeast we are still eliminating the head of the alliacne you are concerned about AndrewIsASexyBeast while at the same eliminating the person I am most concerned about AndrewIsASexyBeast that seems like a reasonable tradeoff to me ThaBurman3 true, it's 50/50 in terms of both ways for that. but I kinda think you didn't need to take the bait in the nominations thread though I get why you did AndrewIsASexyBeast meh its just my personality. I am not gonna let someone walk all over me and not stand up for myself ThaBurman3 I'm very much the same way, it's just sometimes there's a time and place for it AndrewIsASexyBeast fair enough, I think this was the time and place AndrewIsASexyBeast when someone PUBLICLY calls you out, are you seriously gonna sit back and not say anything? AndrewIsASexyBeast like I get if he was trying to provoke me privately AndrewIsASexyBeast but I think I came out of that looking better than if I never said anything at all ThaBurman3 I think when someone does it privately it means they're actually upset 12:56 AMThaBurman3 when they do it publicly, I feel they're trying to provoke something 12:56 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast IDK I would rather be seen as someone that stands up for themselves than a pushover 12:57 AMThaBurman3 though if you don't say anything and he keeps going on, I think it kind of makes him look like a lunatic 12:58 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast fair enough, I sent her a PM letting her know your thoughts <LOL 12:58 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast just in case that happened <@ 12:58 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast I think she < My 12:58 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast will appreciate your loyalty!!! <3 <Stupidity 1:00 AMThaBurman3 what? 1:01 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast ooops that was meant to be to Rory -_-. He told me he wasnt able to get ahold of Liza so I told him I PM'd her to let her know he was on board. 1:01 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast with evicting Suz 1:01 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast I hate the new AIM setup 1:02 AMThaBurman3 it's ok 1:02 AMThaBurman3 I'm just saying people are viewing the you and ryan thing as kind of crazy people going at it 1:03 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast well, I mean I dont know why people would think that if they actually read it 1:03 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast I was not rude in his nominations, and I was very logical in my responses to him 1:04 AMThaBurman3 I know, but I can say firsthand, sometimes peopel think "why are you still responding, let it go" 1:05 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast fair enough 1:05 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast IDK to me its a tossup 1:06 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast if you let it go, you dont look like a threat, but you also look like someone who won't go down with a fight. Making you someone easy to target and the HoH wont expect backlash 1:07 AMThaBurman3 true. though sometimes you can just say one thing and leave it 1:07 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast I guess, but when someone is making lies about you and you don't take the time to refute them, I think it makes them look more true 1:08 AMThaBurman3 I know 1:13 AMThaBurman3 I'm just saying 1:17 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast no worries, I appreciate someone to keep me in check. Just hard to sit back when someone is spewing shit about you 1:21 AMThaBurman3 yeah, believe me 1:21 AMThaBurman3 though you gotta be careful sometimes. 1:21 AMThaBurman3 sometimes people will piss you off on pupose to get you to be like "oh yeah, my alliance of x/y/z will just vote you out anyway!" 1:41 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast true true, sorry just watching BB right now. Im so behind.... 1:44 AMThaBurman3 I'm a few behind too 1:44 AMThaBurman3 I'm probably going to bed soon 1:45 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast alright cool man, Ill catch you tomorrow 1:50 AMThaBurman3 all right good night 1:50 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast talk to you tomorrow man 1:50 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast night 1:51 AMThaBurman3 and sorry if I was pushy today<<(OK So he did KINDA apologize at the end for being pushy. But not for steering me in the wrong direction which I kinda suspect him of doing:/) 1:52 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast its all good, I really do feel strongly about this round but I appreciate that you are willing to offer an alternate perspective 1:52 AMAndrewIsASexyBeast Some people are just yes-men and I detest that 1:53 AMThaBurman3 yeah, those kinda suck 1:53 AMThaBurman3 night
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 11, 2013 23:54:16 GMT -5
OK so to put that previous conversation into context, it was about the fourth time we have had exact that conversation and every time it has been just as draining. He didn't seem to get that in no way, shape, or form was I gonna be ok with my nominations coming down.
Thank God that Ryan shot himself in the foot by sending his stupid PM to Liza. I would have been so mad if he had been taken off the block. And it sounds like he would have been if it weren't for saying some stupid things to Liza, which makes me glad she didn't use it but not really trust her more.
This week has been absolutely insane in comparison to the first two. Now that the votes are individual and the noms are set, it *actually* feels like we are playing Big Brother. I really want Ryan out but I don't want to be the type of player that tells others what to do so I am trying to sit back
I also think that maybe I was being a little too mean spirited with Liza and AJ in my last few DR entries. I have laid into people in the past games in my DR's and I am trying to adopt a better attitude this time. Sorry guys, if you are reading this later on, I hope you realize that I like you both a ton as people, but this has been an emotionally tolling week for me.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 12, 2013 23:11:04 GMT -5
SO bummed that Brigs left. But kinda relieved that I had no role in her eviction? She'd have been very hurt and she's a good girl that doesn't deserve that!
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 13, 2013 2:13:50 GMT -5
Round 4 - 1 Round Away From JURY!!! (and i have already been HoH twice)
I have to say this has been a pretty crazy game for me. I have already been HoH twice. I have been a nominee once. I have had my original final 2 alliance leave, and I have all but jumped ship from my initial alliance. And it's week 4. To call it a roller coaster is an understatement.
I actually feel pretty good about my position in the house right now. Which is weird because my target just survived so I should feel nervous but I don't? It's possible I am misreading things, but I don't feel like I am in overt danger. I think I have strong relationships with Suzette, Talla, Estelle, Krystal and AJ. I have a decent relationship with Dixie and a mediocre relationship with Rory and Liza. That is a pretty good standing to be in with the rest of the house, but obviously this game can change on a dime.
I do have one very prominent enemy, and that is Ryan. But I feel like he is the type of enemy where if he was in a final 5 with me and an obvious final 3 alliance, he would at least realize we need to work together? I know that is a weird thing to say, but I guess what I am getting at is that he is not emotionally driven. I kinda think of him as all-game-all-the time now after seeing his PM to Liza, and how different the tone was from his response to my nomination. Maybe he was trying to appear non-threatening? People seem to be convinced that he is after Liza, but I think he is really after me and used that as a reason to stay. I am going to play super defensive with him - try to maintain communication with him at least somewhat and try to make sure his allies would want to keep me over the people he puts me up against. I have no delusions that talking to him will keep me off the block, but it may give me the info I need to know who I am up against and sometimes, knowing that makes all the difference.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 15, 2013 18:58:01 GMT -5
FUUCCKKK! Suzette lost . I was REALLY hoping she would pull this off.
Liza winning COULD be very bad for me. It depends how much she finds out about the fact that I sold her out last week. I dragged her name through the mud to a lot of people, but I did feel like I developed trust with each of those players, so its possible that they won't say anything? I don't think that Estelle, Talla and Krystal would screw me over intentionally. But I did send a PM to Dixie informing her that I was narrowly able to prevent her from being the target and I am a little worried she might let it get back to Liza.
I am gonna basically support any decision that she makes. I may not follow through with what I tell her but I need to stay off that block whatever way possible. I feel very vulnerable with how much information I shared about Liza's shady ways. I am going to deny, deny, deny if she confronts me over it. If she guns after Suzette, I will promise my vote (although I might go back on my word).
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 17, 2013 8:41:57 GMT -5
Welp, I got interrupted by a lot of real life stuff for that veto. My roommate was in tears when she got home because she got into a fight with her boyfriend, and real life relationships have to come before Rise and Fall .
It's OK though, winning probably would have been bad for my game and hopefully Talla or Suzette can pull themselves off and Ryan can be the replacement.
Post by Andrew Monaghan on Jul 18, 2013 17:19:31 GMT -5
Actually I have come to see the light and realized that I was wrong to dislike Liza. The girl is a lot more with me than I thought she was and she isn't pushy like AJ. She is the type of person who will make a decision and stick with it despite what others may say, but she won't try and bully me into screwing up my game for her. I can respect when allies make their own decisions I disagree with, but I can't respect when they try to force me to make moves myself that I don't agree with. I think she understands that difference.
She is playing a very good game, and I am going to have to get rid of her at some point if the opportunity ever presents itself. But I was wrong to say mean things about her to the other houseguests and I do feel bad about it. I think I had a distorted perception of who she is because of my relationship with AJ. I would apologize to her for it but then I would have to admit to doing that in the first place... awk.
She is considering using the POV on Talla and replacing her with Ryan. <333333 PLZ DO THAT LIZA!!!
But regardless of whether or not Talla is taken down, this vote is going to *really* be between Liza and Suzette. If you vote for Suzette to leave, you are on team Liza. If you vote for her to stay, you are on Team Suzette. Can't be in with both of them. This vote is going to suck.