Post by AJ Burman on Sept 3, 2013 17:57:40 GMT -5
Hey there, ladies. First off, I should congratulate you two on making it this far, each of us wishes we could be there instead though. Buckle in though, because this'll be long.
Here's the thing though. I came into this Final 2 and this whole question and answer session expecting everything to be cleared up and expecting a lot of truths to be spilled out and brought to the surface here. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case as much as I'd have liked to so far. This vote should be feeling a lot easier for me to decide on than it is, but considering how things have gone, and having some alliance that I was supposedly part of but never agreed to or planned to follow be talked about as fact, it's kinda becoming more difficult. I understand the need to try and turn things to make yourselves look better, and I understand trying to appease to other jurors with the "gain 3 votes to possibly lose 1" mindset, but you also have to understand how that comes across as pretty fake and dishonest. At this point in the game, that can rub people the wrong way.
As long as you respond to things honestly, then I don't see there being any problems, but know that if I feel either of you are being dishonest in your answers or are just trying to twist and fabricate things for the sake of making yourselves look better, that you'd lose my vote as a result. Like I said before, I understand trying to appease the others via shortchanging me, but that far from means I have to like it.
Dixie:
We've both happened to be on the same side of things randomly from time to time, but we also went about the way we made ourselves available and the social game involved. While I had a fairly good social game due to availability, some people might be questioning yours due to the nature of playing a "PM-only" social game, as the "respond and wait" mail-like system of it does tend to make conversations more difficult and might cause some to feel they had to approach you in order to talk to them. Now, you've come across as sounding like you were somewhat aware of this, but it still leaves holes and question marks for people.
So, tell us some stuff you haven't about your strategy to help us understand more why you'd choose something like it. Was it something you came into the game deciding to do? Something that you decided to do after it got going despite knowing the risks involved? Or was it something you just fell into? Were there times that you doubted it and considered switching up how you played, or were you confident in it the whole way through. Hell, knowing how the game's gone so far and everything that happened, if you could change how you played, would you? Just give us some insight into your mindset with it that we don't know yet to help us understand why we should vote for you.
Estelle:
Ah Estelle, Esty, Stella, Fire, and whatever other things you've been called over these past couple of months. I'm not really surprised in the least to find you here since I know how good you are, and that we've played pretty similar games, just with you having a bit more luck in he way of actually having some of your "just by a hair" Competition situations become challenge wins. Obviously I was a little surprised that you evicted me, but considering how long it took you to post an eviction that was supposed to be incredibly obvious and easy vote, I became just more and more suspicious and even remember mentioning something to you. Like, you could've always just told me then, instead of being all "surprise! I dumped you for Andrew a few rounds back!". As I told you when you evicted me, I don't blame you for aligning with him for his challenge strength as I see wanting to align with the person winning all the HOHs as opposed to the person who keeps coming second to him in them.
That being said though, what's bugged me about how you've conducted yourself here is that I've witnessed a lot of overexaggerations, or taking credit for things that weren't entirely you, sometimes at the expense of those on the Jury. Now, if we'd been made to vote without any questions immediately following Andrew's eviction, I would've voted for you, and it would've been an easy decision. You're a smart girl, so I have to guess that you would figure you'd have a good shot against Dixie. Yet, you tried to take credit for things, talked about how there was this supposed foursome alliance with us, Andrew, and Talla that I never like the idea of, never agreed to the idea of, didn't wish to be a thing, and didn't ever say in my Diary Rooms "yeah, this alliance is a good idea, I think I'll join this", and shortchanged me. Like, not only did you shortchange me, but you shortchanged us.
I don't really know how to put it other than that you tried to make it seem like something that was agreed on, and worked towards on not just Round 1, but essentially Day Two was never a thing that even entered either of our minds, did anything, was talked about, made, enforced, or any of that, just for the sake of trying to appease 1 or 2 other people. I mean, clearly you must have just felt you could say whatever and compare me to some awful old guy player that got dragged to where he was, or slide things off that we did together as things you did on account of feeling that you would still have my vote. It's irritating when you do that though, and act as if your F2 with Andrew at Round 5 was the first one you made when Fire & Ice was a thing weeks before Andrelle was a gleam in someone's eye.
So pretty much, what were we, like actually? What was I to you through all this? What was the point you decided you would rather sort of leave me out on the side of the road and go with Andrew, and what were your reasons? I'm admittedly curious of those as normally when somebody is contemplating going after your close ally, you don't typically then in turn decide to join that person. I'm also curious, on what things I said to you in confidence that you actually kept in confidence and didn't go and tell Andrew. Actually, I'm kind of curious on some of the things Andrew and I said to you shared with the other, and what some things are that you didn't for each of us.
Both:
Lastly, I'm going to keep this part short, so pick one of the following for me: Flowers, Hill, Pyke, Rivers, Sand, Snow, Stone, Storm, or Waters.
Congratulations again, and good luck to you both.
Here's the thing though. I came into this Final 2 and this whole question and answer session expecting everything to be cleared up and expecting a lot of truths to be spilled out and brought to the surface here. Unfortunately, that hasn't been the case as much as I'd have liked to so far. This vote should be feeling a lot easier for me to decide on than it is, but considering how things have gone, and having some alliance that I was supposedly part of but never agreed to or planned to follow be talked about as fact, it's kinda becoming more difficult. I understand the need to try and turn things to make yourselves look better, and I understand trying to appease to other jurors with the "gain 3 votes to possibly lose 1" mindset, but you also have to understand how that comes across as pretty fake and dishonest. At this point in the game, that can rub people the wrong way.
As long as you respond to things honestly, then I don't see there being any problems, but know that if I feel either of you are being dishonest in your answers or are just trying to twist and fabricate things for the sake of making yourselves look better, that you'd lose my vote as a result. Like I said before, I understand trying to appease the others via shortchanging me, but that far from means I have to like it.
Dixie:
We've both happened to be on the same side of things randomly from time to time, but we also went about the way we made ourselves available and the social game involved. While I had a fairly good social game due to availability, some people might be questioning yours due to the nature of playing a "PM-only" social game, as the "respond and wait" mail-like system of it does tend to make conversations more difficult and might cause some to feel they had to approach you in order to talk to them. Now, you've come across as sounding like you were somewhat aware of this, but it still leaves holes and question marks for people.
So, tell us some stuff you haven't about your strategy to help us understand more why you'd choose something like it. Was it something you came into the game deciding to do? Something that you decided to do after it got going despite knowing the risks involved? Or was it something you just fell into? Were there times that you doubted it and considered switching up how you played, or were you confident in it the whole way through. Hell, knowing how the game's gone so far and everything that happened, if you could change how you played, would you? Just give us some insight into your mindset with it that we don't know yet to help us understand why we should vote for you.
Estelle:
Ah Estelle, Esty, Stella, Fire, and whatever other things you've been called over these past couple of months. I'm not really surprised in the least to find you here since I know how good you are, and that we've played pretty similar games, just with you having a bit more luck in he way of actually having some of your "just by a hair" Competition situations become challenge wins. Obviously I was a little surprised that you evicted me, but considering how long it took you to post an eviction that was supposed to be incredibly obvious and easy vote, I became just more and more suspicious and even remember mentioning something to you. Like, you could've always just told me then, instead of being all "surprise! I dumped you for Andrew a few rounds back!". As I told you when you evicted me, I don't blame you for aligning with him for his challenge strength as I see wanting to align with the person winning all the HOHs as opposed to the person who keeps coming second to him in them.
That being said though, what's bugged me about how you've conducted yourself here is that I've witnessed a lot of overexaggerations, or taking credit for things that weren't entirely you, sometimes at the expense of those on the Jury. Now, if we'd been made to vote without any questions immediately following Andrew's eviction, I would've voted for you, and it would've been an easy decision. You're a smart girl, so I have to guess that you would figure you'd have a good shot against Dixie. Yet, you tried to take credit for things, talked about how there was this supposed foursome alliance with us, Andrew, and Talla that I never like the idea of, never agreed to the idea of, didn't wish to be a thing, and didn't ever say in my Diary Rooms "yeah, this alliance is a good idea, I think I'll join this", and shortchanged me. Like, not only did you shortchange me, but you shortchanged us.
I don't really know how to put it other than that you tried to make it seem like something that was agreed on, and worked towards on not just Round 1, but essentially Day Two was never a thing that even entered either of our minds, did anything, was talked about, made, enforced, or any of that, just for the sake of trying to appease 1 or 2 other people. I mean, clearly you must have just felt you could say whatever and compare me to some awful old guy player that got dragged to where he was, or slide things off that we did together as things you did on account of feeling that you would still have my vote. It's irritating when you do that though, and act as if your F2 with Andrew at Round 5 was the first one you made when Fire & Ice was a thing weeks before Andrelle was a gleam in someone's eye.
So pretty much, what were we, like actually? What was I to you through all this? What was the point you decided you would rather sort of leave me out on the side of the road and go with Andrew, and what were your reasons? I'm admittedly curious of those as normally when somebody is contemplating going after your close ally, you don't typically then in turn decide to join that person. I'm also curious, on what things I said to you in confidence that you actually kept in confidence and didn't go and tell Andrew. Actually, I'm kind of curious on some of the things Andrew and I said to you shared with the other, and what some things are that you didn't for each of us.
Both:
Lastly, I'm going to keep this part short, so pick one of the following for me: Flowers, Hill, Pyke, Rivers, Sand, Snow, Stone, Storm, or Waters.
Congratulations again, and good luck to you both.