I'm Still Into You

[ryan]

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[ryan]

2nd week surviving eviction 

I had proposed a 1 side deal with Andrew in PM that I wouldn't come after him if he kept me. He never replied back to me so I'm assuming he declined the deal. I do think Talla and Rory are the ones who voted me out. Rory is a dumbass, if he kept me... then for what reason was he pretty much telling me he was voting me out. It doesn't matter too much because I'm going after both Rory and Andrew in addition to Talla and Liza.

I finally got confirmation of the Dixie/Krystal/myself alliance. It was always an alliance but never really 'confirmed'.
This round I would like to bring Estelle into the mix to make it a Final 4 deal.

This leaves Liza, Rory, Andrew, Talla who are my enemies in that order.

Then there's AJ.... who I have some connection with but he's just in the middle for me.


For HOH, we have Rory, Andrew, Talla who would all put me up. I would need 4/6 available votes as I wouldn't stay in a tie. I would need to be nominated against an enemy of mine to for sure stay in the game by votes. Talla isn't going to win, that leaves Rory and Andrew. I can either try to win HOH, or I can play the strategy/social game and make a deal with Rory/Andrew to keep each other safe this week.

I like the 2nd option, right now people think I'm either average or not very good at challenges. I'd like to keep this up for a few more rounds if I can. I'll take my chances of striking a deal with the enemies and hoping someone in my alliance wins HOH.

[ryan]

that was a hard HOH, the only way I had a chance of winning that was if I passed on each question and won by having everyone else get questions wrong.

I sent a proposal to Rory on keeping each other safe if we were to win HOH. I need to some how strike a deal with Andrew now, but not making it look like I'm going around doing this with everyone. Possibly straight up telling both Rory and Andrew I made this deal with both of them will work.

[ryan]

Jul 20, 2013 23:55:12 GMT -5 ryan said:

that was a hard HOH, the only way I had a chance of winning that was if I passed on each question and won by having everyone else get questions wrong.

Jul 22, 2013 9:17:26 GMT -5 Andrew Monaghan said:

Ummmm lol. I didn't even buzz in once. But yay!

[ryan]

Andrew (8:43:21 PM): so, anyways I was quite glad you messaged me today
Andrew (8:43:41 PM): cuz I kinda feel like we got off on the wrong foot and I dont want that to continue
Ryan (8:46:17 PM): agreed
Ryan (8:46:25 PM): did you read the pm's I sent?
Ryan (8:47:14 PM): I'm def up for keeping each other safe.
Andrew (8:47:18 PM): yeah I did, sorry I took ssome time to respond
Andrew (8:47:24 PM): awesome, I would like that a lot
Ryan (8:47:52 PM): I did have a secret alliance with Suzette that I made with her the round we kept each other ( 2 rounds ago) and I had beef with her. Maybe we can work the same deal out or something simliar
Andrew (8:47:55 PM): cuz I think people are counting on me targeting you and exploiting our initial argument to make sure that happens
Ryan (8:48:07 PM): ya that could def happen
Andrew (8:48:47 PM): ok cool well I am def down for keeping you safe
Andrew (8:49:20 PM): I think it benefts both of us, and I think that people wouldn't really expect it which works in our favour
Ryan (8:49:48 PM): and if you need to you can always say you're considering on putting me up as a replacement
Andrew (8:50:33 PM): true
Andrew (8:50:59 PM): prolly would be a good idea if that is the case to give you your key last
Andrew (8:53:38 PM): so I am thinking of making a pretty big move this week
Ryan (8:56:50 PM): kk
Ryan (8:56:52 PM): oh boy
Ryan (8:57:08 PM): involving 1 player?
Andrew (8:57:35 PM): yeah
Andrew (8:57:51 PM): I am thinking of trying to evict AJ this week
Andrew (8:58:38 PM): I think he's kinda slid by through the early weeks, but that he is very persuasive and is able to flip a vote if he needs to
Andrew (8:58:55 PM): cuz he can be very pushy with people and kinda strongarms them
Ryan (8:59:06 PM):
Ryan (8:59:17 PM): kind of like an Amanda bb15 style
Ryan (8:59:23 PM): he is in a good spot right now
Andrew (8:59:41 PM): yeah he told me this week that I should go after floaters
Andrew (8:59:49 PM): which to me makes me think he is in good with all the power players
Ryan (9:00:46 PM): yeah def, if he doesn't mention anyone else then thats prob the case


He's going after AJ

AHhhhaHAHhahaHAHahjasdkfja;skldfj:AHHAHAHAHAHhah LMAO! Some might even say LOLZ ashfahhas

I just peed my pants.

[ryan]

OH THE IRONY

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLl


"AJ" (11:00:39 PM): I'm going to see if Andrew might entertain not putting you up, but if he gets too dead set on it, understand I can't get too pushy because he could tell me to fuck off and put me up next to you if he so decided
MFlounderin (11:01:25 PM): yeah I understand, whatever happens.. its all good
MFlounderin (11:01:27 PM):
"AJ" (11:01:49 PM): thanks man, goodnight

[ryan]

Rory (9:50:12 PM): please pick F9 lol
Ryan (9:50:59 PM): cant sorry
Rory (9:51:55 PM): ? I thought we were good man, I doubt you'd be the replacement nominee.
Ryan (9:52:22 PM): I'm nervous I could be, I have to try to win
Rory (9:52:51 PM): OK
Rory (9:53:32 PM): You were completely hidden though. Andrew had 2 sqaures wide open.
Rory (9:54:31 PM): And estelle was in for the kill as well
Ryan (9:58:37 PM): see why I couldn't go there?
Rory (9:59:06 PM): ? Not really, this has been confusing haha
Ryan (9:59:20 PM): estelle and I are on the same spot
Rory (9:59:39 PM): Ahh, OK, I understand, sorry.
Ryan (10:01:58 PM): ya
Ryan (10:02:00 PM): sorry
Rory (10:02:32 PM): Its OK. I hope you'd be willing to take me off if you win, I feel like we're close in the game, but I understand if you keep them the same.
Rory (10:24:05 PM): Congrats on the win
Ryan (10:25:26 PM): thanks


Flash back to you giving me bullshit and not telling me your'e keeping me.

Jul 19, 2013 19:24:57 GMT -5 ryan said:

Rory (7:24:10 PM): OK, yeah, we'll see.

Oh.... now you want to talk game? Now you want to be my bff..... dumb bitch!

[ryan]

GIVE ME A FUCKING CONDUCTOR WAND THINGY... pop danthology.
Time to mix and match these little freaks into one big master piece.

[ryan]

Ryan (10:34:44 PM): what's your thoughts?
Ryan (10:34:46 PM): keep same?
Andrew (10:35:48 PM): ummm, if I had won I prolly would have but I dont want you to feel like I am gonna force your hand or anything
Ryan (10:36:23 PM): thats what I thought, I didn't know if you had votes to get AJ out or not
Andrew (10:37:07 PM): ummmm, I have had people tell me that they will vote that way, but I also know that people have lied to me about votes in the past (though not these exact people)
Andrew (10:37:26 PM): Dixie/Krys/you all said you'd be willing to do it and 3 is enough with my tie break
Andrew (10:38:10 PM): I think Talla probably would too but I havent directly checked with her
Ryan (10:41:41 PM): so that's 3
Ryan (10:41:56 PM): but yeah its tough to say if everyone truly intends to do that
Andrew (10:44:59 PM): Yeah 3 is certainly not enough numbers to feel solid about anything
Ryan (10:54:34 PM): so currently, most people think we are still at each other
Ryan (10:54:45 PM): I've been putting on the act that I've been scared of a backdoor
Andrew (10:58:22 PM): I think its a good plan to continue doing that
Andrew (10:58:42 PM): I am telling people that I have absolutely no clue what you will do
Andrew (10:58:59 PM): which, I guess is actually kinda true but it implies we areent willing to discuss it with eachother
Ryan (10:59:10 PM): y
Ryan (10:59:10 PM): a
Ryan (10:59:12 PM): ya*
Ryan (11:00:19 PM): so we're going to need something more going into the final 8
Andrew (11:00:50 PM): I absolutely agree
Andrew (11:01:00 PM): I am feeling very exposed right now
Ryan (11:01:10 PM): i'm just kinda confused where all the relationships are at... AJ/Liza Krystal/Dixie ?
Ryan (11:01:18 PM): no idea about Rory
Ryan (11:01:27 PM): or Talla
Andrew (11:01:56 PM): well, I currently feel like a bit of a fish out of water
Andrew (11:02:07 PM): I was close to Suzette before she was evicted :X
Andrew (11:02:40 PM): I think that AJ/Liza are together. I think Rory is floating and trying to figure out which way to go
Andrew (11:03:23 PM): btw man, I hope it isnt a problem I voted to keep Suzette last week. I really liked her kinda crazy personality
Ryan (11:03:35 PM): thats fine lol
Andrew (11:04:03 PM): k cool
Andrew (11:04:05 PM): I appreciate that
Ryan (11:04:09 PM): so here are a few things I'm thinking
Ryan (11:05:04 PM): if we bring another person in, totally mind f everyone in the game. such an oddball group.
Ryan (11:05:12 PM): we could control the votes this round as well
Andrew (11:05:43 PM): we would need 2 people to control the votes this round
Andrew (11:05:48 PM): cuz I cant vote
Andrew (11:05:52 PM): unless of tiebreaking
Ryan (11:06:01 PM): but the thing would be if we split up AJ/Liza, the bigger threat is Liza. but I'm still willing to get out AJ if you want.
Andrew (11:07:06 PM): true, I do see that Liza is the bigger threat of the two of them
Andrew (11:07:43 PM): on a non-strategic level I would feel shitty about it because she hasnt really done anything to me in this game
Andrew (11:07:49 PM): but I do see the benefit
Andrew (11:07:55 PM): shes a comp beast
Ryan (11:08:05 PM): right
Ryan (11:09:37 PM): we could use veto/nom Liza against AJ and then decide. I'm comitted to working with you to the end, and I'll vote with what you want. If we want AJ out, it could secure the identity by using the veto and possibly pinning me/rory as a pair
Ryan (11:10:31 PM): and we can bring in another, which would be 3/8
Andrew (11:11:11 PM): hmmm, what if I were to fake being pissed at you after you use veto?
Andrew (11:11:42 PM): like you use it. I act totally surprised
Ryan (11:11:53 PM): yeah
Andrew (11:11:58 PM): Im just thinking I think we could kinda get a Ali/Jun thing going here
Ryan (11:11:59 PM): that would be good
Ryan (11:12:06 PM):
Ryan (11:12:23 PM): what are your thoughts on bringing in Estelle?
Andrew (11:13:26 PM): ummmm, well, I DO like Estelle
Ryan (11:13:30 PM): so combination of me using veto and saving Rory.. People will think me/rory are together, and it would hide me/estelle/you actually working together. If people target me, they'll put Rory up against me
Andrew (11:13:34 PM): but, I think her and AJ are friends?
Andrew (11:13:52 PM): do you think she would be willing to do it?
Ryan (11:13:58 PM): she mentioned she was prob going to vote rory out
Ryan (11:14:16 PM): but if its AJ/Liza... we have the votes to get AJ out without her right?
Ryan (11:14:23 PM): we could do that, to ensure she stays with us?
Andrew (11:14:46 PM): k heres the main thing
Andrew (11:14:50 PM): I want either a plan
Andrew (11:14:56 PM): that involves evicting AJ without nomming Liza
Andrew (11:14:59 PM): or nomming and evicting Liza
Andrew (11:15:16 PM): but I dont want to nom her and have her stay and win the next hoh
Andrew (11:15:27 PM): I think she would nominate me and you in that case
Ryan (11:15:39 PM): you dont think she'd put me up against Rory?
Andrew (11:15:48 PM): not if I nominate her
Ryan (11:15:56 PM): hmm
Andrew (11:16:04 PM): especially since I just got out her f2 most likely
Andrew (11:16:08 PM): in that scenario
Ryan (11:16:27 PM): which do you want?
Ryan (11:16:37 PM): so it's keep noms same, or backdoor liza?
Andrew (11:16:42 PM): truth be told I could go either way
Andrew (11:17:26 PM): I think probably backdooring Liza is the better play, I just feel like an asshole is all :/. But I shouldnt let that dictate my strategy
Ryan (11:17:44 PM): ya
Ryan (11:18:10 PM): its such a cruel game haha
Ryan (11:18:38 PM): you good w/ Estelle coming in for a 3 either way we go with the veto?
Andrew (11:19:01 PM): yeah that would work for me
Andrew (11:19:14 PM): she is a smart girl, I think she could keep it low key
Ryan (11:23:49 PM): awesome

[ryan]

Ryan (10:28:24 PM): what are your thoughts for this round?
Estelle (10:32:55 PM): Hmmm
Estelle (10:32:58 PM): Im not even sure lol
Estelle (10:33:07 PM): I was just happy you (and I) didnt go up
Estelle (10:33:19 PM): But now with veto we could have some thinking to do
Ryan (10:33:34 PM): you feel your safe if veto was used?
Estelle (10:33:50 PM): But now with veto we could have some thinking to do (idk if this sent)
Ryan (10:33:58 PM): ya
Ryan (10:34:00 PM): I saw it
Estelle (10:34:15 PM): I think I would be originally, idk how close he thinks we are though he may wanna put up someone you're close to if you use POV without him being ok with it
Ryan (10:37:00 PM): how close you 2 are?
Ryan (10:37:02 PM): or me/ you?
Estelle (10:37:28 PM): me and you
Estelle (10:37:33 PM): Like if you use pov with him not wanting you to
Estelle (10:37:38 PM): What if he wants to put up someone you're close to?
Ryan (10:38:27 PM): ya that's true
Ryan (10:39:34 PM): any idea who the 2nd vote was to get me out last rought?
Ryan (10:39:37 PM): Talla and ____
Estelle (10:42:40 PM): Not positive really I didn't talk to many people I just said I was keeping you and didn't care what others said otherwise
Estelle (10:42:41 PM): hahaha
Ryan (10:42:50 PM): nice haha
Ryan (10:47:58 PM): my thoughts are
Ryan (10:48:05 PM): it would be sweet to get Liza out
Ryan (10:48:22 PM): out of AJ/Rory who you think would go?
Estelle (10:49:10 PM): I'm not even sure, I think it could go either way. I'd probably want to personally vote out Rory but I can definitely see the strategic advantage of voting out AJ while the opportunity is there. I know AJ and Liza are close so splitting them up could be beautiful
Estelle (10:50:16 PM): We'd probably have to talk to Andrew about it too to see if he even would put up Liza
Estelle (10:50:20 PM): But it would be a big move
Estelle (10:50:23 PM): Definitely something to consider
Ryan (10:52:32 PM): I think Andrew wants AJ out right now
Ryan (10:52:49 PM): I'm somewhat confused on who Andrew is with then
Ryan (10:53:02 PM): if AJ/Liza together... he put up AJ/Rorry
Ryan (10:53:19 PM): that leaves talla Dixie/Krystal?
Ryan (10:53:30 PM): he has to have some kind of backup or he wouldn't have done these weird noms
Estelle (10:54:46 PM): I know, I was confused too. I thought AJ/Liza/Andrew were all together so I was really shocked by his nomination or that he was even considering AJ lol.
Estelle (10:54:57 PM): I feel like Dixie and Krystal aren't around enough to get into a stable alliance too
Ryan (10:55:29 PM): exactly
Ryan (10:55:40 PM): so he's just trying to make a big move?
Ryan (10:55:47 PM): Talla is kinda out there too randomly
Estelle (10:56:42 PM): Lmao I forgot about Talla. Did you notice their font is the same?
Ryan (10:56:52 PM): no
Estelle (10:57:24 PM): I think so anyway. My AIM is weird. They're both like bold and blue right?
Ryan (10:58:00 PM): andrew's is blue
Ryan (10:58:02 PM): idk about talla
Estelle (10:58:08 PM): I think hers is too
Ryan (10:58:57 PM): they're lovers
Estelle (10:59:09 PM): Lol I noticed that early on but didnt think of it much
Ryan (11:02:14 PM): interested in forming something with Andrew?
Estelle (11:02:59 PM): I'm all for it if you're down
Estelle (11:03:02 PM): lol no one would see this coming
Ryan (11:03:57 PM): no they wouldn't lol
Estelle (11:07:40 PM): Is andrew down for it??
Ryan (11:10:38 PM): I'm
Ryan (11:10:43 PM): trying to approach him about it
Ryan (11:11:10 PM): thoughts on me using veto on rory, and Liza goes up.. then we can decide which to split up? At the same time, people will think rory/myself might have some sort of deal?
Ryan (11:11:27 PM): Which can help disguise you/me and Andrew too. All 3 of us working together
Estelle (11:11:38 PM): I like it. :X
Estelle (11:11:47 PM): I was kinda wondering why he didn't just put AJ and Liza up to begin with.
Estelle (11:11:55 PM): If Liza actually would go up I think it'd be ideal
Ryan (11:14:44 PM): yes
Ryan (11:14:55 PM): I think he's game for it
Estelle (11:15:00 PM): Omggg
Estelle (11:15:08 PM): Haha he better hope we get HOH next week then
Ryan (11:16:59 PM): so it looks he's game for us 3 together
Ryan (11:17:05 PM): but if he noms Liza, then he wants Liza to go
Estelle (11:17:24 PM): That's fine by me I think she's probably stronger anyway lol
Ryan (11:19:44 PM): he confirmed you me him together
Estelle (11:19:48 PM): YES
Estelle (11:19:48 PM): haha
Ryan (11:19:50 PM): and I think he's now wanting to backdoor liza
Estelle (11:20:01 PM): I just mentioned it to me too
Estelle (11:20:18 PM): He said he'd feel like an ass but it's prob best lol
Ryan (11:23:41 PM): sweet

[ryan]

to sum all this crap up

How did I get Andrew to want to backdoor Liza?
I can't even answer that myself.

The Dixie/Krystal/Ryan alliance is so random, it deserves to be demoted to the alliance of. "plan b"
They're my backup plan, and I will go to them if I ever need votes.

The new alliance that was just created deserves such a bad ass alliance name, I through this one out prematurely this season but this consists of the real "darksiders" <----- such a badass name.
(Andrew, Estelle, Ryan)
The whole cast is going to have a huge mind fuck on this alliance. Andrew voted me out, I acted scared that I was going to be attempted at a backdoor again. I veto his nominations to save Rory. Everyone thinks I made a deal with Rory now. While all this is going on, we have the darksiders in the background about to control this game.

So now by backdooring Liza, I keep AJ happy by keeping him in the game. I keep Rory happy by vetoing him.... AND I GET THE BIGGEST THREAT TO MY GAME EVICTED.


This is all happening while throwing the HOH, THIS is why you get the HOH to do what the fuck you want to do instead of trying to win HOH. The veto holds so much more power than the HOH if played right. I have everyone in my corner coming into the Final 8 except Talla.

Except who? ya'... that's what I thought.. Who?

[ryan]

Jul 24, 2013 23:11:09 GMT -5 Liza said:

nice 1

[ryan]

a few seconds ago QuoteMessage Options
any thoughts of using veto?
We could force Andrew to nominate Talla. I don't see who else he would put up. We can then guarantee a Canadian goes home!

^pm sent out to Krystal/Dixie... we have a pm chain going for awhile now. I have said in the past that I want to have an Aussy alliance so this idea of wanting to keep Rory and force a Canadian out shouldn't raise any red flags.


All my ducks are in a row, it's just a matter of how long they will stay there.

[ryan]

I'm nervous about people believing Andrew and myself did not orchestrate this together.

It's right out in everyone's face, if they honestly think this backdoor wasn't planned between myself and Andrew it will be a very easy ride to the finals. I'm looking back on my cover ups with Dixie/Krystal and my cover up with Rory and AJ. To me it looks really silly, and I really hope they are all buying the fact that me/Rory are aligned instead of Andrew/myself.

Maybe I just feel it's so obvious because I'm the one behind this plan.

[ryan]

MFlounderin (8:43:25 PM): so I came to a decision and you'll hate it, but I believe you will stay with the votes and hope that's just as good.


"AJ" is available (9:00:53 PM)
"AJ" (9:01:02 PM): I don't know, man
"AJ" (9:01:11 PM): I really don't think I'll have the votes to stay
"AJ" (9:01:37 PM): wait, what?
"AJ" (9:01:43 PM): why Rory?


MFlounderin (9:02:40 PM): I think you would have gone against him, and I feel the consequences of saving you would screw my game. This is the best shot for you to stay I believe


"AJ" (9:03:14 PM): you'll forgive me for saying the best shot of me staying is for me to not even be on the block. Well, barring you knowing something I don't
"AJ" (9:05:01 PM): though I admittedly don't understand it


MFlounderin (9:05:28 PM): I think Talla will go up, and theres a better shot for you to stay that way
MFlounderin (9:05:41 PM): I'll be back in a bit


"AJ" (9:06:08 PM): I dunno man, I don't think he'd put up Talla
"AJ" (9:07:21 PM): I respect your decision, but I kinda think you're gambling
"AJ" (9:08:57 PM): I'll be back later tohugh. cyas



Really? That seems like a blatant cover up, bless little AJ's heart if he actually believes it.