I'm Still Into You

[ryan]

Andrew has Talla
Andrew has me
Andrew has Estelle

Talla and myself are rivals
I voted out Estelle last round
Talla just nominated Estelle

and the winner, for best game played........ is Andrew.

[ryan]

"Talla" (10:26:41 PM): You can put other things in my mouth.

[ryan]

Dixie is the worst pawn I have seen in a long time.

How is she the pawn? She has to leave this round, I doubt it would take much to convince Andrew to back up that plan.
If veto gets used, I need to get Estelle nominated and not me. I don't think that would be very hard either. If I keep stressing that I wants Darksiders in Final 3, and that I'ma afraid Estelle would vote me out..... This round seems 'too easy'

[Kat]

Aug 12, 2013 22:27:01 GMT -5 ryan said:

"Talla" (10:26:41 PM): You can put other things in my mouth.

[ryan]

Convo last night



Ryan (10:52:55 PM): have you spoke to mr. hoh lately?
Estelle (10:54:54 PM): just a bit last night!
Ryan (10:57:46 PM): =-O
Ryan (10:58:08 PM): It seems we are both good
Ryan (10:58:14 PM): and the final 3 plan is still on ;o
Ryan (10:58:24 PM): it seems he wants suzette out?
Ryan (10:58:26 PM): I mean AJ*
Estelle (11:05:07 PM): I think he wants AJ out yeah
Estelle (11:05:23 PM): Maybe its only real in Tallas mind
Estelle went away at 11:13:48 PM
Estelle returned at 11:14:09 PM
Ryan (11:16:42 PM): what ya mean? =O
Estelle went away at 11:21:51 PM
Estelle returned at 11:27:41 PM
Estelle (11:27:48 PM): the Canadian thing
Estelle (11:27:48 PM):
Ryan (11:28:02 PM): oh
Ryan (11:28:03 PM): yes
Ryan (11:28:40 PM): we still have to win veto
Estelle (11:28:42 PM): yeah
Estelle (11:28:44 PM): if Talla wins
Estelle (11:28:46 PM):
Ryan (11:28:50 PM): she might use it =-O
Estelle (11:29:01 PM): I feel like she'd wanna backdoor one of us
Ryan (11:29:16 PM): ya true, if she uses it 1 of us goes up -__-
Estelle (11:29:17 PM): hmm
Estelle (11:29:20 PM): yeah 100%
Estelle (11:29:31 PM): what if we won it
Ryan (11:29:37 PM): idk
Estelle (11:29:45 PM): i feel like the other may go up
Ryan (11:29:47 PM): think andrew would put up talla?
Ryan (11:29:50 PM): ya could be
Estelle (11:30:02 PM): well maybe he would if whichever of us didnt win it
Estelle (11:30:06 PM): acted pissed that the other used it
Ryan (11:30:17 PM): there's an idea
Estelle (11:30:21 PM): something to consider at least
Ryan (11:30:24 PM): yes
Estelle (11:30:34 PM): I feel like Talla going is way more beneficial to US
Ryan (11:30:41 PM): mhm
Ryan (11:30:57 PM): so if 1 of nominees wins veto we have to get andrew to put up talla
Ryan (11:31:03 PM): and ensure him that you/me control votes
Estelle (11:31:08 PM): Yeah
Estelle (11:31:11 PM): :X
Ryan (11:31:13 PM):
Ryan (11:31:17 PM): lol
Estelle (11:31:24 PM): If talla does go up though i cant ignore the chance of evicting her
Ryan (11:31:36 PM): same
Estelle (11:31:39 PM): But andrew can't know that i guess
Estelle (11:31:40 PM): lol
Estelle (11:31:48 PM): i feel like he'd expect me to
Ryan (11:31:56 PM): at least not until she's actually on the block
Estelle (11:32:00 PM): yeah exactly
Estelle (11:32:09 PM): then we can be like hmmm
Estelle (11:32:11 PM): lol
Ryan (11:32:13 PM): lolz
Estelle (11:32:14 PM): did you do veto yet?
Ryan (11:32:16 PM): no
Estelle (11:32:18 PM): oh ok
Estelle (11:32:26 PM): i didnt think it was bad
Ryan (11:32:49 PM): it doesn't take a hour to do right?
Ryan (11:32:50 PM): :-!
Estelle (11:34:32 PM): LOL
Estelle (11:34:32 PM): No
Estelle (11:34:50 PM): btw AJ wants me to win pov
Estelle (11:34:51 PM): save him
Estelle (11:34:57 PM): and he assumes you would go up
Estelle (11:35:09 PM): then he wants me and him to vote Dixie because he thinks she is stronger than you
Ryan (11:36:32 PM): oh snap
Estelle (11:36:40 PM): just letting ya know xD
Ryan (11:37:14 PM): good news he wants dixie out over me
Ryan (11:37:45 PM): so if aj won veto
Ryan (11:37:54 PM): we would have a plan b if talla doesn't go up
Estelle (11:38:07 PM): Yeah I guess Dixie would have to go in that scenario
Estelle (11:38:26 PM): I don't really see aj winning anyway

[ryan]

What I would like to have gone down this round is, I win veto and use it on AJ. I make a finals deal with AJ in the same process.

If Andrew puts up Talla then she goes, if he puts up Estelle then Dixie goes.

If Estelle wins the veto, then the same scenario could go down except I CAN NOT be the replacement nominee, I don't think I would even want to risk the move at that point. Just take out Dixie and call it a day, have Estelle keep the noms the same.


I feel I need to make a permanent deal with Andrew before veto results to ensure my safety but he's not on.

[ryan]

I told Andrew I was nervous about Talla using veto to try and get me nominated and out... or Estelle.
.......I feel I have every veto outcome covered for me to stay safe, but there is still some doubt.

[ryan]

30 minutes for a time how the hell

Need Estelle to keep noms same, make a final 3 deal with AJ me Estelle and take out Dixie

AJ already sees Andrew/Talla as a pair

could have 2 diff final 3 deals. with 5 people left in game

andrew/aj vote each other out. everyone votes talla out only chance i leave is if final noms are me/krystal. thats with talla as hoh and noms stay same any other scenario and I'm in final 4

[ryan]

I'm screwed


I have to pull some shit off now to save myself.

+_____________________________________________________________________+

[ryan]

AJ (9:17:42 PM): now what?
Ryan (9:17:52 PM): idk
Ryan (9:18:05 PM): I feel like
Ryan (9:18:20 PM): things are switching back and forth with alliances and bonds and stuff
Ryan (9:18:33 PM): how do you think I voted last round?
AJ (9:20:19 PM): you told me you were voting Estelle knowing it would make it 3-1, so really I don't have reason to think otherwise since I haven't really asked about it
Ryan (9:21:02 PM): I did vote estelle
Ryan (9:21:24 PM): so dixie rats me out to Estelle
Ryan (9:21:48 PM): gets her to use veto, which guarantees myself or Talla get evicted
Ryan (9:21:55 PM): since now Estelle and Dixie control the votes
AJ (9:22:33 PM): would Talla being evicted really be bad though, if she got up?
Ryan (9:22:39 PM): no
Ryan (9:22:49 PM): but there's a good chance he puts me up too
AJ (9:23:01 PM): and what makes you think Dixie would keep me?
Ryan (9:23:06 PM): I feel like you and me need to approach Andrew now
AJ (9:23:18 PM): about what?
Ryan (9:23:36 PM): because, what other reason would Estelle use the veto? those 2 have to have a deal to vote the same this round
Ryan (9:23:58 PM): about you me Andrew teaming up
Ryan (9:24:08 PM): and that everyone knows Andrew/Talla are together
Ryan (9:24:23 PM): but if he keeps me and you in the game, then we could have like a "secret" alliance
Ryan (9:24:34 PM): and Andrew has 2 people competing for HOH next round instead of only Talla
AJ (9:25:36 PM): do you think that'd work? And moreso do you think he'd even expect us to keep our words after the past he's had with us
Ryan (9:26:01 PM): It's the only card I have to play
Ryan (9:26:08 PM): otherwise it's you and me on the block
AJ (9:26:35 PM): I know, I'm just saying
Ryan (9:26:51 PM): his other option is to potentially having Dixie/Estelle be a team
Ryan (9:26:56 PM): against him
Ryan (9:27:02 PM): and maybe you going after him too
Ryan (9:27:13 PM): he can't compete in hoh and would only have Talla
Ryan (9:27:36 PM): would you be down for that, or are you thinking of something else?
Ryan (9:27:50 PM): I can't believe that bitch used veto
Ryan (9:27:54 PM): on dixie
Ryan (9:27:55 PM):
AJ (9:28:11 PM): if there's a way to keep us both, then I'll certainly not complain

[ryan]

what are alliances?

I dunno either, this is such a weird game. Alliances are broken every single round. I have back stabbed my fair share of allies just as the next housemate... but it's just really weird.

Now I have to convince Andrew that it's best for him to go to final 3 with me and AJ. +___+
The hard part is going to make Andrew believe that I'm not part of this bullshit plan for Estelle to use the veto. I can't be making a scene acting all pissed either because that will just make him think I'm "acting mad" this is going to be hard.

My luck... Andrew pops on the board, nominates me without me saying a fucking word to him.

plan b merges with the darksiders to create Dixie and Estelle, the mom squad...eww...


Andrew, AJ, Ryan Two AR? amidoingitright?

[Shir]

Doingitwrong when you compare anything to bb15 o.O worst season ever?

[ryan]

sent to Andrew

I feel like this is a very solid pitch to him. If he would get the sljkas;lfks on AIM, this would be so much easier.



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I think I made a mistake by voting out Estelle

Dixie and Estelle obviously have a deal, understanding... whatever you want to call it. Estelle and Dixie control the votes this round, she does want Talla out but I have to be the 2nd option after I voted her out last round. This puts you in a weird spot, you basically have to choose from me and Talla.

People feel like you and Talla are close, if I leave you will only have Talla competing in the HOH next round to keep you safe. Everyone is going to nominate you and Tall against each other so that 1 of you is guaranteed to leave. If Talla goes, we can make a deal with AJ to go to the final 3. Then you would have me and AJ both competing for HOH against Estelle/Dixe. That also ensures that you, me, AJ alliance is not out in the open. We can keep it secret and Dixie/Estelle wouldn't know anything about it, that gives you and me hope that if Dixie/Estelle wins hoh that they nominate you against AJ, or me against AJ. Which then, if you/me whoever is off the block wins veto.. we can then pull the other one down and control votes to take out Dixie or Estelle.

there's so many better opportunities that we can accomplish together, and it would all be on the down low. With Talla in the game, you 2 are going to be targeted as a pair.

If the next HOH is anything speed, skill wise I have the advantage over Talla. We're at the point in the game where I feel all of the 'question' HOH's is done with.

I hope you see all the advantages that you and me can do in this game together as opposed to me leaving. We can bring AJ in as 3 people if I stay. If I leave, I don't see how you and AJ can coexist together. You will be down to having only 1 person on your side which just makes you a bigger threat.

[ryan]

my convo with Andrew is lasjfg;lkasjfg;lkajsf;glkja;sfklgjas;fg;asfkg

^

[ryan]

Andrew (11:24:16 PM): Fuuuucccck Estelle
Ryan (11:24:23 PM): oh snap
Andrew (11:24:32 PM): Im sooooo pissed
Ryan (11:24:33 PM): did she tell you?
Ryan (11:24:37 PM): guessing not
Andrew (11:24:48 PM): kinda but like she told me she would be up for further discussion
Andrew (11:24:53 PM): and then just posted
Ryan (11:24:56 PM): oh
Ryan (11:25:15 PM): does she want me or talla to go up did she say? x.x
Ryan (11:25:34 PM): I'm sorry if me voting her out last round caused all this
Andrew (11:25:35 PM): I dont even understand her move
Andrew (11:25:48 PM): I am sure she teamed up with Dixie to evict whoever I nominate
Ryan (11:25:56 PM): right
Andrew (11:26:00 PM): which is just so... incredibly douchy
Andrew (11:26:09 PM): Ive nominated every person in this game but her...
Ryan (11:26:51 PM): did you read my pm?
Andrew (11:27:05 PM): I did, but I need to read it again cuz I was in a bar
Ryan (11:27:11 PM): oh
Ryan (11:27:12 PM): haha
Ryan (11:27:38 PM): I outlined keeping me vs keeping Talla
Ryan (11:28:40 PM): I've spoken to AJ a little bit tonight and if I stay we could team up with AJ to go against Dixie/Estelle. Also a big advantage is that people are not going to see us 3 as together compared to people already knowing you/talla are together.
Andrew (11:28:50 PM): AJ/Estelle are together
Andrew (11:28:54 PM): thats not an option
Ryan (11:29:04 PM): How do you know that?
Andrew (11:29:12 PM): Estelle thought this would be her way of saving AJ without me being clued into it
Andrew (11:29:31 PM): I guarantee you AJ saves this round because of a deal made with Dixie
Andrew (11:29:40 PM): *stays
Ryan (11:29:50 PM): yes thats pretty much implied
Ryan (11:29:56 PM): whoever is nominated is leaving
Andrew (11:30:22 PM): I mean yeah
Ryan (11:30:26 PM): why would AJ go with Estelle/Dixie? I just dont see that
Andrew (11:30:36 PM): Estelle is AJ's #1
Andrew (11:30:47 PM): its why she wouldnt drop him this round
Ryan (11:31:05 PM): I feel we can swing him over
Ryan (11:31:08 PM): expose darksiders
Andrew (11:31:11 PM): you cant
Andrew (11:31:17 PM): he said he wants me out by final 3
Andrew (11:31:24 PM): to her
Ryan (11:31:34 PM): how can you trust what she says
Andrew (11:31:48 PM): it just rings true
Andrew (11:31:56 PM): there are quotes from his and her convos
Ryan (11:32:08 PM): and that was when?
Andrew (11:32:57 PM): that was this week, but she was trying to keep him off the block
Ryan (11:34:22 PM): so you are seeing it as Dixie Estelle AJ vs you and _____ ?
Andrew (11:34:40 PM): yes, with Dixie as being the one that could be swayed
Ryan (11:35:17 PM): she could vote AJ out?
Andrew (11:35:34 PM): IDK I hope so, but I dont think so cuz I think she honors deals
Ryan (11:36:03 PM): the only way I feel AJ leaves is if Talla goes up, and me/Dixie vote AJ out
Ryan (11:36:15 PM): you know damn well Talla is voting me out
Ryan (11:36:40 PM): Estelle will vote me out to save AJ if what your'e saying is true about AJ/Estelle being together
Ryan (11:39:30 PM): if AJ/Estelle are so together, wouldn't she veto him and they control votes?
Andrew (11:40:08 PM): no because she also had deals with me and didnt want to get caught with her hand in multiple jars
Andrew (11:40:40 PM): like, I got rid of Krystal last round cuz Krystal was openly after her and there was no other option. I am just pissed right now
Ryan (11:40:56 PM): oh my
Andrew (11:41:24 PM): yeah basically no matter who I pick we are in minority
Andrew (11:41:29 PM): *
Ryan (11:41:43 PM): you have a chance to swing Dixie's vote to get out AJ?
Ryan (11:41:55 PM): you have no chance to swing Talla's vote
Andrew (11:41:56 PM): IDK maybe?
Andrew (11:42:31 PM): I have a lot more sway with Talla's vote than Dixie, but I realize that pust you in the position of being nominated so its kinda irrelevent to this convo
Ryan (11:42:58 PM): that doesn't make any sense
Andrew (11:43:17 PM): well, if Talla is a voter that means you are on the block
Andrew (11:43:26 PM): if you are a voter, that means Talla is on the block
Ryan (11:43:30 PM): yes
Andrew (11:43:40 PM): but in terms of votes, I think Talla is easier to sway than Dixie.
Andrew (11:43:52 PM): I think Dixie is already locked to keep AJ
Andrew (11:43:58 PM): you are easier to sway than Talla though
Ryan (11:44:09 PM): you don't need to sway me haha
Andrew (11:44:18 PM): true lol
Ryan (11:44:35 PM): I've burned bridges with people, I just went against the whole vote count last week
Ryan (11:44:42 PM): at least Talla kept Dixie safe
Ryan (11:44:54 PM): there's a chance Dixie will return the favor and keep Talla safe
Andrew (11:45:10 PM): thats true
Andrew (11:45:15 PM): btw are you named Cody in real life?
Andrew (11:45:30 PM): not that this is relevent but people have like been giving me weird warinngs I have ignored
Ryan (11:45:32 PM): maybe
Andrew (11:45:45 PM): IDC if you won an allstars series, I did too
Ryan (11:45:58 PM): lol
Ryan (11:46:11 PM): geez people are talking about me?
Ryan (11:46:14 PM): that's awkward
Ryan (11:46:26 PM): is your real name Mark?
Ryan (11:46:34 PM): I'm only kidding
Ryan (11:46:45 PM): about the Mark thing
Andrew (11:46:45 PM): lol my real name is Tom
Ryan (11:46:57 PM): so do you know me?
Ryan (11:47:02 PM): or are peole just telling you stuff
Ryan (11:47:09 PM): people*
Andrew (11:47:37 PM): I dont think I know you
Andrew (11:47:46 PM): unless you played in Warzone or Starz
Andrew (11:47:57 PM): or maybe BB International?
Ryan (11:48:03 PM): my app for warzone was rejected like 3 times
Ryan (11:48:04 PM): lmao
Andrew (11:48:12 PM): for serious?
Andrew (11:48:12 PM): lame
Andrew (11:48:18 PM): such a good series
Andrew (11:48:28 PM): have you been on recycled?
Ryan (11:48:36 PM): I think 1 season
Ryan (11:48:51 PM): but I was out either first or 2nd, i think it was a season with pairs?
Andrew (11:48:58 PM): I was on 2 seasons, no I wasnt on that one
Andrew (11:49:15 PM): I was on season 6 and 8 I think
Ryan (11:49:21 PM): nice
Andrew (11:49:35 PM): if I do keep you, I will have one more juror that loathes me :/
Ryan (11:50:09 PM): if you feel its going to be 3 vs 1 after this round
Ryan (11:50:31 PM): 3 vs 2*
Andrew (11:50:39 PM): IDK the thing that makes me the most angry about this decision
Ryan (11:50:43 PM): you have to make a decision on what the best odds are to have it be 3 vs 2 in your favor
Andrew (11:50:53 PM): is that I think it wasnt made for making to the end, it was jury management
Andrew (11:51:07 PM): Estelle told me she was afraid of looking like my bitch
Ryan (11:51:13 PM): lol
Ryan (11:51:40 PM): I think it comes down to this, I've said it before but
Ryan (11:51:51 PM): there is a chance Dixie votes AJ out over Talla
Ryan (11:52:04 PM): that's the only move I see that you can make
Andrew (11:52:28 PM): thats true
Andrew (11:53:02 PM): IDK its just fucked. Talla would be so mad and if she is the person I believe she is she is vindictive. Which is ultimately not what I want in an ally
Andrew (11:53:16 PM): btw, just out of curiosity have you been throwing comps?
Ryan (11:53:34 PM): early jury stage yes
Andrew (11:53:51 PM): what about the one just now wher you got 1?
Ryan (11:53:56 PM): no
Andrew (11:54:02 PM): IDC I just wanna know
Andrew (11:54:08 PM): ty for being honest
Ryan (11:54:11 PM): I don't know how anyone could guess that crap
Andrew (11:54:28 PM): oh lol I actually thought a lot about who would say what
Andrew (11:54:39 PM): like who was pissed about each particular event
Ryan (11:56:31 PM): ya
Ryan (11:57:05 PM): can't you go to dixie with the estelle/aj combo?
Ryan (11:57:17 PM): Talla works dixie with the fact that she saved her ass
Ryan (11:57:41 PM): and Dixie needs to keep Talla in the game so she can go after me and estelle
Ryan (11:59:14 PM): for all we know, maybe Talla made a deal with Dixie to keep her safe last round?