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[Talla]

AJ... 

You never showed me the "conversation".  Please don't continue to lie about me.  

And I'm happy to see you here evicted against Andrew.  Should have kept me in the game... I wasn't as big of a threat as him, if he left I would have had no relationships in the game, and yet you kept him.  WTH?

[AJ Burman]

I kept him when I did because you were a better speaker and I thought you could make people do things and sway a jury well. And it was taking the chance we'd have the chance to take him out again, and the chance was there.

And I'm not lying about showing you the conversation. I can, and will, gladly show you, and/or the people in here the part of a conversation we had where I showed YOU the part of the previous conversation we had had and explained it. I know I'm not lying about what I've been saying, you know I'm not lying, and I'm pretty sure those that have actually gotten to know me, know that I'm not as well.

[Talla]

Thanks for the compliment about me being a better speaker than Andrew, it's very much appreciated.  

AJ!  Just show me the conversation then... I have not seen it!!! 

[Krystal Forscutt]

Andrew is/was making final deals left and right.

This was like over a month ago now when I posted this in my DR for safe keeping of Andrew telling me that he wanted to go to the end with me and the final 2 deal kinda started from there.

Andrew Monaghan 11:24 pm
K so first of all, I think its kinda been implied but I would very much like to go to the end of this game with you.
we dont need to make a final 2 or anything, Im just basially gonna tell you whats going on in this game right now cuz I really do trust you
and if you DO want an official kinda deal Id be down
Andrew Monaghan 11:25 pm
anyways heres the rundown
Krystal 11:26 pm
I'd like to go to the end with you too =-O

fucking hurts man. 

[AJ Burman]

Aug 28, 2013 22:43:35 GMT -5 Talla said:

Thanks for the compliment about me being a better speaker than Andrew, it's very much appreciated.  

AJ!  Just show me the conversation then... I have not seen it!!! 

Alright, I'll go and get it and show it tomorrow then. I'll most likely just show it in here unless there's some giant reason that you and the other jurors see not to.


And yeah Krystal, I'd heard he was all season. He ended ours over a rather silly reason (that wasn't entirely true) that boiled down to "you focus too much on yourself and what you want, and since you disagree with me, I don't feel you taking my opinions into account", even though I'd asked his thoughts on things, to make sure I at least had another opinion (even if I admittedly often was stubborn with my plans). So, I dunno, it came across as wanting me up and out for not being a "Yes Man", and even though a round or two after we sorted it out from a personal standpoint and any personal bitterness was fixed, I still didn't forget about it from a strategic standpoint.

[Krystal Forscutt]

God, he made one with you too?! And yeah, he would always constantly talk trash about you with me saying pretty much what you just said and maybe more, I need to dig up my aim chat logs lol.


that's why I don't want to vote Andrew to win cause he's a scumbag and nothing but a twofaced shithead and I can't appreciate that gameplay.

[AJ Burman]

Even so, the sad truth is we'd be naive to not expect a bunch of people in the cast of any ORG to be like that with how things are these days.

[ryan]

we all had final deals with everyone

I had a final 3 with Andrew/Estelle and another with Krystal/Dixie and I was trying to get one with AJ

[AJ Burman]

This was AFTER the suggested idea of us and Rory fell through with him going at F8, right?

And to be fair, I never made any with Dixie or Krystal since they weren't on AIM as much, and would obviously see through it, and the one with Talla was suggested by Andrew and I wasn't about to turn an offer down so that they'd go and bash me even more.

[AJ Burman]

Also, since Talla asked for the conversation bits, I'll show them here in raw form. To those of you that don't care, feel free to ignore them.



(11:50:01 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Haha. That's rare to find in these games.
(11:50:06 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: 100% straight that is...
(11:50:07 PM) ThaBurman3: Whatever floats your boat though, as they say.
(11:50:18 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Not the whole "not against gay" statement.
(11:50:18 PM) ThaBurman3: You think so? Most people I find actually are.
(11:50:19 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Haha
(11:50:35 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Really? Most people I've spoken to seem to be gay or bi, or something in between.
(11:51:03 PM) ThaBurman3: isn't bi between straight and gay?
(11:51:17 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Lol. Yea… But there's other stuff as well. Lmao
(11:52:11 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Hetero-Flexible, Omnisexual, Pansexual, Questioning, Bi-Curious… And then there's those that believe in Polygamy, Polyamory, CLRs… And the list can definitely go on and on.
(11:52:14 PM) ThaBurman3: Well yeah, but you can't really be between straight and between-gay-and-straight
(11:52:32 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Haha. Well I apologize for my awkward wording.
(11:52:40 PM) ThaBurman3: hetero flexible and bi-curious is more just straight but open, I always figured
(11:53:26 PM) ThaBurman3: and nobody's truly 100% straight or 100% gay. It's just people that are traditionally straight or gay are 99% each way
(11:53:27 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Well… I would consider hetero-flexible straight but VERY open. And bi-curious I would say is straight, but has some sexual fantasy with the same sex.
(11:53:29 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Haha
(11:53:37 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Lmao
(11:53:55 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: According to the Kinsey scale it goes in 20% ranges.
(11:54:14 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: … I think.
(11:54:23 PM) ThaBurman3: That's probably just since they have to put a number to it, I'm sure it's smaller incriments than that
(11:54:41 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Yea, probably.
(11:54:59 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Even though… I do know a lot of people that have done something at least once with the same sex.
(11:55:06 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Almost like a "just to try it" experience.
(11:55:39 PM) ThaBurman3: I'm pretty sure most people would be like that, but just really don't want to talk about it
(11:56:00 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Haha. I love talking about it.
(11:56:06 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: If you didn't notice. ;-)
(11:56:36 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: I used to write a sex advice column. It was so much fun! But then I got super busy for a while, and lost interest when my time cleared back up.





(And this one here, from a couple days later following Talla starting the accusations about me being a bigot)


(10:54:25 PM) ThaBurman3: I was just a surprised as you likely were when it got used on Dixie. I didn't argue with her over that prior
(10:55:02 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Hmm… That's not the story Stella is selling to people.
(10:55:27 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: She is saying she considered using it on you, but that you told her you were going to evict Dixie over Ryan.
(10:56:13 PM) ThaBurman3: My vote wasn't set
(11:01:01 PM) ThaBurman3: And, is that really a reason to make up slander about me, though?
(11:02:43 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Slander?
(11:03:23 PM) ThaBurman3: about the anti-bisexual thing
(11:03:36 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Oh my god.
(11:03:38 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: AJ… Seriously.
(11:03:46 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: First off, I never once cited your name...
(11:03:53 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: So… it's not slander!
(11:03:58 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Get the facts straight.
(11:04:21 PM) ThaBurman3: well it's either me or dixie, and since we had a conversation about sexuality
(11:04:27 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: And secondly, if I were talking about you… Did you, or did you not say that people are either 99% straight, or 99% gay.
(11:04:35 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Thus implying that you cannot be 50%.
(11:04:47 PM) ThaBurman3: I did not say that
(11:05:12 PM) ThaBurman3: I said everyone is between 1-99% gay, or 1-99% straight
(11:05:18 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: I have conversations about sexuality with everyone! People enjoy talking about their sexual experiences with me, because they sense a nonjudgmental atmosphere in the realm of sex.
(11:05:25 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Oh my gosh!
(11:05:27 PM) ThaBurman3: which suggests everything from 50-50, to 40-60, to 30-70, etc
(11:05:29 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: You did not say that...
(11:05:32 PM) ThaBurman3: I did
(11:05:35 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: AJ!
(11:05:40 PM) ThaBurman3: I can get the convo
(11:05:42 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: You said 99% straight, or 99% gay!
(11:06:11 PM) ThaBurman3: 99% straight TO 99% gay, is far different from one or the other
(11:06:25 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: It is..
(11:07:12 PM) ThaBurman3: which means what I said is far different from the impression you got from it
(11:07:20 PM) RiseNFall - Talla: Lol



So, that's that.

[Liza]

Guys who claim they're bi = closet cases in denial
Girls who claim they're bi = sluts who think it'll turn guys on

[AJ Burman]

Lol, Liza. Coming from one straight guy to another, or no? Though that is kind of in the "so awful it's almost kinda funny" category.

[Liza]

Straight?  yeah.. of course. 

Anyway sorry if my comment offended anyone.  I only said it because of Texas. 

[ryan]

Anyone acknowledging the reference for rice and Asians as being racist, is being racist in itself.
Candice in the dark is the same as calling Andy pasty white. Is the Zingbot racist too?

[AJ Burman]

It's probably just Jeremy in the Zingbot suit so, it wouldn't surprise me.