pissed that ryan is obviously leaving. i dont understand what andrew did by putting talla up. its almost like he started a war with estelle or something.
im honestly so annoyed that every move made in THIS round is due to some pre-game alliance or pre-enemies.
Started with andrew nominating AJ. Then Estelle using veto on Dixie. Then Andrew keeping Talla safe because they know each other as well. Not to mention that Estelle and Andrew know each other from another game too. This is silly.
Andrew and I didn't know each other pre-game, and still don't.
Post by Estelle Landy on Sept 7, 2013 16:54:49 GMT -5
I agree with Talla. I don't really feel like Andrew nominating AJ had anything to do with pregame relations, nor did my decision to veto Dixie. It came down to AJ not committing to vote my way, and Dixie committing, not to do with who they were.
Also I didn't know Andrew from a previous game... He HC'd a game I played and I didn't even know till our F2 was formed, and regardless we never spoke until this game. Same can be said about Rory and I (I PW'd a game he played...)
The week Ryan left had little to nothing to do with pregame relations...? I don't even remember people wanting him out due to who he was. It would have happened anyway, imo.
The thing is though, I told you even before you won the veto that I'd strongly consider it, so I really have no idea why you didn't think to ask me afterwards and didn't think I couldn't be "talked into it", with all the "unquestioned trust" you thought I was giving you.
And it's funny all this pregame talk going around since I feel like I'm the only person who really didn't give a shit about any of it.
Post by Estelle Landy on Sept 7, 2013 19:56:10 GMT -5
But when I won it you were just like, "idk I don't think that's best, but I will consider it." An "I will consider it" is not as promising as "I will do it." Sorry
Maybe so, I'm not arguing that a strong consideration is like a promise, but if you truly felt I was as in your back pocket as you claimed, then you wouldn't have questioned your ability to simply talk to me about it and explain things in order to get me to do it.
Yeah, when he told me he'd figured out who I was "a while ago", (aka way before), I figured that had something to do with me going up the first time even though the game was like...2 years ago. I mean, I admit once or twice I've been guilty of similar things in the past, but it was still wrong. I don't know exactly how much of it was, but if some of it was, he could've talked to me on it beforehand and seen a lot was different.
Yeah, when he told me he'd figured out who I was "a while ago", (aka way before), I figured that had something to do with me going up the first time even though the game was like...2 years ago. I mean, I admit once or twice I've been guilty of similar things in the past, but it was still wrong. I don't know exactly how much of it was, but if some of it was, he could've talked to me on it beforehand and seen a lot was different.
Nah, didn't have a clue who you were the first time I put you up. I think I found out in final 8 round. Maybe final 7. But not earlier than that. I said 'a while ago' at the time because I didn't want you to piece together that it was Estelle who told me. And yes that other game was played a while ago but it was the last game I played before this one so it stands out in my memory lol.
In reality I don't think it was the deciding factor in any of my decisions with you. I used it as justification at the final 6 round because I didn't want to have to explain that I knew you were coming after me from a source you wouldn't lie to (also intel I found out from Estelle). And I wanted Andrelle to go to the final 4 with Ryan and Talla so you were prolly going up regardless.
That probably wouldn't have worked out though for you, I have to admit. Sure it would've seemed like you were covered from all angles, but I'd assume they'd have figured it out at some point, like I did on most of them (though my initial assumption was it was Estelle/Talla).